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Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Well, so far this thing has been a bust. It doesn't roll, the suspension is boxy and doesn't flex, and I can't even fit a battery into the chassis. https://i.ibb.co/m8SmLrZ/rps20211212-191038.jpg Maybe when I open the box, the performance will improve. But it looks nice so far. Actually, since the box is wrapped, I can't even look at it. I'm trying to model patience for my kids, as they also must wait until Xmas to open their presents. I've considered abandoning that ship several times already. So far, I've only bought the model, and a set of Pro-Line dual stage foams for XL tires. I plan on running this thing very stock, but past experience with Axial foams has shown me that I really don't like them. I picked up some more paint pens from Hobby Lobby, to start some detailing things like the lettering on the tires. I also plan on running the truck with the 2 speed transmission, instead of the dig function. This thread won't get very interesting until sometime after Xmas. Knowing me, it won't get that interesting until 2 or 3 years from now when I've accumulated significant time tinkering with it. Until then, it's just another RTR for the experts to scoff at. And currently it's just a wrapped and sealed box waiting under a tree. Hopefully my house doesn't get burglarized before Xmas. |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Well done [emoji1303] look forward to seeing what you do with this Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Cool, I have come across very few of these on the board surprisingly. Look forward to seeing your direction and hearing your thoughts with it |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Thanks gentlemen. This post is mostly about out of the box performance, as I haven't done much with this rig yet. https://i.ibb.co/c2rPCcS/rps20211228-172746.jpg All I've done so far is replace the stock foams with Pro-Line dual stage foams. While I was working on the tires, I also painted the sidewall lettering. The only other change I've made is moving the power switch. Axial installs it inside of the chassis, where you can't access it without removing the body. I want to be able to turn the truck off / on with the body installed. I stuck it to the bottom, driver's side of the rear battery tray: https://i.ibb.co/xJzZY4j/rps20211228-172813.jpg Now, onto the driving. This truck is a lot of fun, when kept within its parameters. It's not a Capra, and it's not a Wraith. It's a 1/7 scaled version of a street legal truck with sheet metal body panels and glass window panes that sits on 35" tires. When driven as such, it's a blast! https://i.ibb.co/NtYFpK6/rps20211228-172833.jpg I bought an 11t pinion for it, but I'll probably only throw that on if I follow through with making the switch to 2 speed. But I'm enjoying the dig, and the stock gearing. I run it with a 3S, 5000mah brick of a battery on the rear tray. If I owned a full size old bronco that looked this good, it would only leave the garage on weekends. I wouldn't be trying to hop up 4' ledges with it. So I drive the SCX10 Bronco similarly; slowly up and over stuff that I can crawl. If I need wheelspeed to get over it, I'm finding another line. That being said, it's still an SCX10 iii under that body: https://i.ibb.co/Dz0f8fb/rps20211228-172851.jpg The truck still has an unrealistic amount of flex. But I don't want to throw money at shocks right now. Everything about this truck is fine for my driving style, box stock. Even the steering servo. In an hour of rock crawling I never found myself wanting more steering. The only flaw I've noticed so far is the dig disengagement. Sometimes it disengages when you tell it to, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes you have to reverse a little to make it disengage, which seems odd to me. I thought dig existed because comp crawlers get dinged for reversing. If you have to reverse to disengage your dig, well... But I don't compete anyway. I'm very happy with it so far. I feel like it was $600 well spent. |
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Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Thanks, it is a good looking truck. I really can't take any credit for that though, as Axial nailed it on this. The super, extra massive articulation does make me feel like I'm cheating when I drive into a situation where it gets used. I'll probably eventually limit the shock travel internally. I've got about 3 hours of runtime on one 5000mah battery so far. No transmission click yet and no real gripes. I did notice that if you turn the throttle trim forward, the ESC doesn't like it. E.G. I like my throttle trimmed forward so far that it's just shy of moving the truck forward. It makes for a very responsive feeling throttle that I can crawl super slow with. But if I leave the trim that way and turn the truck off, when I turn it back on I get zero throttle response. I have to turn the trim back down, then turn it up again every time I switch the truck off / on. I'm guessing because this is because of Horizon's "self calibrating" radio system. I'm assuming it looks for throttle "full FWD, neutral, full REV" every time you turn thr truck on. Apparently my throttle trim setting messes with that. It's a simple fix, but it took me a few minutes to figure out. |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco No photos in this post, just a few observations. 1. Axial's kits and RTRs have really gotten better as far as quality is concerned. The last Axial kit I bought was the Yeti which my oldest son and I built. That was the kit which, as usual for Axial, came with nicer links and some upgraded parts. But remember when Axial's RTRs came with super soft plastic links? Even my Yeti kit which came with nicer stuff still had those plastic rod end eyes, which would wear out after 3 or 4 batteries. This Bronco RTR? Metal everywhere! Even the panhard mount and servo horn. Nice beefy links too. Now, my Yeti kit was $330, and the Bronco was $600. So it's not like Axial's giving this stuff away. But at least for the price, we really are getting nice RTRs and kits. 2. The Pro-Line dual stage foams make these tires a few MM taller, and a few MM narrower than the stock foams.. At least upon initial installation. Maybe after some wearing in they'll flatten out a little. 3. The dig function helps remove torque twist from the rig, and can set a lifted front tire back on the ground. Crawling around my living room I kept rolling the truck onto its passenger side, due to torque twisting while crawling an obstacle. Hitting the dig would pull that driver's side front tire back onto the ground, I assume by eliminating the torque twist from the rear axle. |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Well I finally did enough to warrant an update to this thread. Let's start with a few crawling photos. I've been tinkering with and driving this truck every weekend for the last month. https://i.ibb.co/CnR1hZg/rps20220124-030143.jpg https://i.ibb.co/FhpNj1P/rps20220124-030208.jpg The projects started with painting the parts that on a full size truck would be metal. The bumpers, sliders, roll cage and grill got painted with Krylon Fusion Metallic Dark Gray. I basically just wanted those parts to reflect light more than the matte black plastic did. I know this means either driving very carefully, or consistently repainting. I choose the careful driving option. Then I set about to lowering the truck. Several people have gone with 90mm shocks, but I'm trying not to throw money at this truck. I decided to internally limit the shocks by 8mm. https://i.ibb.co/mSP9P0y/rps20220124-030340.jpg That's part of an SSD aluminum spacer kit. I used an 8mm spacer under each shock piston. I've read on this forum that the SCX10 3 shocks are quite leaky. So while I was limiting the shocks I also greased the O-rings and Teflon taped the upper and lower caps. Then fresh 30WT oil went in. https://i.ibb.co/Mh1Mhyd/rps20220124-030415.jpg I then got some suspension drop by installing the lower shock eye on the lower link mounts. I spaced the lower ends outboard by using a 4 or 5mm spacer between the shock and the link mount. I needed M3 X 30mm screws to do this. So far, I'm $3.00 into upgrades. https://i.ibb.co/71M253j/rps20220124-030540.jpg This is the difference: https://i.ibb.co/587Xt7c/rps20220124-030646.jpg The driver's side has the limited shocks mounted to the link mounts. The passenger side is stock. Stock ride height with zero preload: https://i.ibb.co/qj90WpC/rps20220124-030122.jpg https://i.ibb.co/hfRBCC7/rps20220124-030101.jpg Lowered, with zero preload: https://i.ibb.co/tMpTb0j/rps20220124-030016.jpg https://i.ibb.co/DGd0zjM/rps20220124-030033.jpg Obviously, those photos also give away some other details I've been painting. Several interior bits and the fender flares have been painted to match, in Krylon Fusion Tan Khaki. https://i.ibb.co/mDYrcJj/rps20220124-030229.jpg https://i.ibb.co/S6HhfYW/rps20220124-030253.jpg All of the painting was done with the aforementioned spray paints and Sharpie paint pens. I added some preload to the shocks because it was REALLY low. I didn't like the stock blue stickers with my tan details. I removed those and replaced them with black stickers that come with the truck.This is how it currently sits: https://i.ibb.co/Kmn0rVz/rps20220124-025857.jpg https://i.ibb.co/SR5Pk3w/rps20220124-025932.jpg https://i.ibb.co/h2wqbzk/rps20220124-025959.jpg The torque twist is almost undetectable now. However, I've sacrificed ride height and down travel. The truck will not perform quite as well as it used to, but I think that's realistic. As previously stated, I wouldn't be doing harcore rock crawling in a Bronco that looked this good. Oh, and this: https://i.ibb.co/n02ZhyD/rps20220124-030320.jpg Got any old Yeti Jr tires around? They're 1.2 outer and 1.55 inner. They fit nicely on TX steering wheels. Well, about one month in and this truck has already been changed up a bit. Once again, I've spent $3.00 in parts so far. Everything else has been paint, grease or other materials I already had laying around. Axial did a pretty damn good job making this truck look and drive well, so I haven't really felt the need to drop coin on it. I've been enjoying tinkering with and driving it, both of which will likely continue. |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Very nice work, looks great Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Looking great. Be careful with that spacer on the axle. The fastener is in double shear (mostly), but that offset may end up cracking the clevis on the axle. |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Thanks! And thanks for the warning on the wild end of that screw. I hadn't thought of that, but I'll keep an eye on it. Hopefully the screw bends before the plastic cracks. Then again, that would probably push me to order some aluminum axle housings, which I'm already tempted to buy. But ideally, neither will be the case. I'm pretty gentle on this truck, so my suspension won't be seeing the type of sharp hits that would likely do damage. |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Killer Bronco, much prefer it dropped down to a very scale ride height - even if performance is going to take a hit... "thumbsup" |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Have to agree lowering the truck really compliments the look of the truck. The paint touches do also. The tan tone really tempers the starkness of the blue and white. Nice job Fallen, the truck looks fantastic"thumbsup" |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Sticky dig, pull it apart and grease it. Ive not had a problem since adding some grease!!"thumbsup" |
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Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Thanks fellow toy truck lovers. And specifically thanks for the tip on greasing the Dig. Now I have a project for next weekend. Edit: I currently work grave shift, which means on my weekends I'm up all night while my family sleeps. That being the case, I'm usually jonesing for RC projects. In addition to greasing my dig unit, I also just ordered several axle parts from RPP. SSD Heavy brass knuckles and SSD rear axle weights. And I ordered SSD brass differential covers for both axles. Once some beef tubes come out for these axles I'll probably scoop some of those up too. But I should be kept busy for at least a few hours on my next weekend. |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Looks really good. Swapping the blue stripe out for the black stripe was the right choice. It goes so much better with the tan. |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco Thanks! I was quite pleased once I made that switch. The blue made the tan seem out of place. But the black and tan go together nicely. Did yours include a sticker kit that has those stripes? Yours being the turquoise body makes me wonder if they have two different sticker sheets. I added the brass axle parts, which are nice and heavy. Even with the extra weight, the steering servo still does just fine. I changed the transmission to a 2 speed, and no more dig. I kind of miss the dig, but 2 speeds are fun too. Changing over to a 2 speed was a few hours of work. You have to disassemble the entire transmission, dig unit and transfer case to get everything back together. And once that's done, you still have to move the servo, install new servo linkage and then reprogram your 3rd channel switch. Kind of a pain. Such a pain that I won't swap back. I'll eventually get a 4ch radio and just add dig back in. After doing some driving today, she's still pretty darn capable as long as I'm willing to drag my bumpers and sliders. I guess by doing so I can just keep myself in paint projects, even though Krylon Fusion is pretty darn tough once fully cured. |
Re: Fallen's SCX10 iii Bronco yeah, mine came with a sticker sheet and those black stripes are on it as well as some silver ones. |
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